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1. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
krkempa Apr 3, 2008 4:18 PM (in response to krkempa)Actually first link is to gwt-ext project (http://www.gwt-ext.com/demo), not gwt.
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2. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
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3. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
pmuir Apr 6, 2008 11:42 AM (in response to krkempa)The Drools BRMS is written using gwt-ext with Seam as a backing layer.
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4. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
www.supernovasoftware.com Apr 6, 2008 4:55 PM (in response to krkempa)I agree. Every time I upgrade Richfaces to get new components something breaks regarding existing components.
I spend valuable time looking for a workaround just get get to use some new components.
I would gladly pay for develeper licenses like the ones I read about at http://www.telerik.com/purchase/purchase-online.aspx
If that provided a more stable richer component set. I did not look at what Teleric actually provides. I am just going of
My .NET friend is laughing on what we have compared to what Teleric has...and my experience with Richfaces upgrades.
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5. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
dustismo Apr 6, 2008 7:01 PM (in response to krkempa)I started my project with icefaces,then moved to richfaces, then decided to abandon both and do my own extjs integration. I'll -never- go back :). Proof is in the pudding so to say. trendrr.com. I am able to open multiple conversations on the same page (ex. when you tag a graph a nested conversation is started then ends when you press 'save' -- never reloads the page). I am planning to release my extjs and seam integration code when I have time to decouple it from the application.
-Dustin
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6. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
barbacena Apr 6, 2008 8:40 PM (in response to krkempa)I really love the idea behind the richfaces project: use JSF component that gets better user experience.
However, as you said, richfaces team is losing their way. The widgets have to get better client side control and a lot more testing.
A integration with ext-js is more the appropriated.
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7. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
sander Apr 6, 2008 9:04 PM (in response to krkempa)How have you integrated ext?
Only using remoting for the actions or have you build your own jsf components.
Can you tell something about it as we are also looking how to integrate it
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8. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
dhinojosa Apr 7, 2008 5:56 AM (in response to krkempa)Wow, I had no idea there was so much disappointment with RichFaces.
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9. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
cpopetz Apr 7, 2008 4:59 PM (in response to krkempa)We chose RichFaces because RH had chosen RichFaces, and I had assumed that would mean they would work to provide better integration with seam, better documentation, and better stability. That has really not been the case, and each RichFaces release seems to have more problems than the last. I'm seriously considering recommending that we transition to using IceFaces at this point.
It's incredible to me that the release a version that doesn't work at all on MacOS. Hello? Do they do integration testing on their supposed supported browsers?
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10. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
sergeysmirnov.sim.exadel.com Apr 7, 2008 7:46 PM (in response to krkempa)Kris, what do you really know about RichFaces development cycle to blame it?
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11. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
kaszynski Apr 7, 2008 8:00 PM (in response to krkempa)I think it is Cthulhu who ate RichFaces functionality
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12. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
www.supernovasoftware.com Apr 7, 2008 10:44 PM (in response to krkempa)I chose richfaces because of RH as well.
I really do like richfaces and jsf in general. I am hoping it will stabilize after all of the more useful components are added and are released for a while.
I would really love to see a schedule component or an example of how the calendar could be made to render with takes or meetings for each date.
The wiki example for seam is a great detailed example of how seam
eats their own dog food
.It would be nice to see more complex examples than the ones provided. I know jsf if very powerful and the richfaces components can be put to much better use than the simple examples used in the richfaces demo.
My app is so married to jsf and richfaces, I would really have to see something spectacular to justify switching.
I have an inventory system that has hundreds of pages loaded with richfaces components. Switching would be a major task to say the least.
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13. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
jimk1723 Apr 7, 2008 11:02 PM (in response to krkempa)I feel like I'm late to the party, what does Teleric have to do with GWT-ExtJS?
For ExtJS integration, we're really talking about integrating ExtJS with Seam Remoting, not JSF, right? It's apples to oranges; I mean if you're deciding to not use the JSF life-cycle then godspeed, but to do a 1:1 comparison between ExtJS widgets to RichFaces components is discounting a lot of what's happening under the hood.
p.s. the next time your .NET friend laughs at you, just point out that they have to work in .NET. Zing!
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14. Re: Richfaces R.I.P, welcome ExtJS+Seam - sharing thoughts?
www.supernovasoftware.com Apr 7, 2008 11:50 PM (in response to krkempa)Can anyone point me to a good comparison for .Not vs JSF?
The Telenic components look nice, but I have never researched what the advantages of JSF vs .Not.